I remember the day after my first child was born. A well-known “OB to the Stars” in New York City who delivered my son came in to see what we wanted to do about circumcision. “This is completely up to you,” she said with authority. “But it only takes a minute and he won’t remember a thing. I do it myself. It is absolutely not a big deal.” I trusted her judgment in a New York nanosecond as I had trusted her throughout the labor. She was beyond confident. I, on the other hand, was 27 years old and quite without confidence. I was unprepared for mothering and comforted by the idea that the medical establishment had the answers. Still, I had the good sense to turn to my husband, saying simply, “This is up to you.” Nick declined the procedure for Michael, and later for Peter and Gil, our two twin boys, even though, or perhaps because, he himself had been circumcised at birth.
Later on, I was surprised to discover the emotions our choice triggered in my father. Not having been circumcised after his home birth on an Iowa farm, he had it done in the Navy and found it a brutal experience, one he did not want his grandchild to go through. “Best to just get it over and done with early,” he said, never questioning the ultimate need for it, the timing of doing it with a newborn, the humanity of the procedure itself or its ultimate side effects on body or psyche. Dad’s conclusion that it would never be remembered still seems to be the norm in America. Though circumcision rates in the United States have declined in the past 40 years, it is still much more common here than in Europe, Australia or Canada where rates are well under 10%.
Traumatic Learning
Because of this pervasive lack of public dialogue on this subject, it was probably fifteen years before I discovered literature on trauma while I was studying and practicing body psychotherapy. I learned that, far from never remembering traumas of this nature, a baby’s nervous system registers events such as birth, early bonding and circumcision with a strong neural imprint. In these imprints are messages about the safety and kindness of the world that often lasts a lifetime. Further, I began to notice that circumcision was an experience that exerted a significant influence on the psyches of my male clients. It was certainly far from the innocuous, small procedure, assumed forgotten, I had been assured about after Michael’s birth. I began to ask myself: “Where had my OB’s authoritative certainty that it would be ‘no big deal’ to my baby come from?” It certainly did not appear to come from sound medical or psychological research.
The idea that babies and children are not significantly influenced by harsh experiences because they do not have conscious recall of them later, is the greatest distortion of truth I have had to witness as a doula, therapist and mother, one that seems to live on in hospitals and within medical personnel despite their often very good conscious intentions. It is an idea that should, in my opinion, be challenged loudly and at every possible opportunity by many voices, good research and common sense.
Rachel’s Story
Challenging such thinking is just what my friend Rachel did a couple of years ago, however it was not without a price. As a new nurse on a labor and delivery floor in a large New York City hospital, Rachel was given circumcision support duty as one of her first assignments. She had no idea where this duty would take her. When I talked with her after her first few months she was visibly distraught by her job and the suffering she was witnessing. She also worried that she might lose her job for complaining loudly and often about something that seemed unnecessarily cruel. The circumcisions Rachel was assisting were generally administered with no anesthesia to babies. This is a traditional practice still in common use despite the fact that the American Association of Pediatrics does not consider circumcision medically necessary and has advocated for the use of anesthesia since 1999. (A compelling, but graphic description of what Rachel was witnessing can be read in this description offered by then nursing student, Marilyn Milos, who eventually founded the National Organization of Circumcision Information Resource Centers).
Being naturally empathic, Rachel’s experience of the agony of infants during this procedure was nearly more than her nervous system could bear. She was forthright in her complaints to doctors about not using the anesthesia, and assertive in requesting that they follow APA recommendations. She even counseled parents to request the anesthesia, and advised them this would probably not happen without their active intervention (a practice that did not make her popular with colleagues). Indeed, she once witnessed a doctor blatantly ignore a parent’s request for local anesthesia for their child’s circumcision (don’t, and say you did!), unilaterally deciding that it was unnecessary.
I am sure that Rachel’s empathic presence helped many babies she comforted post-operatively, but the toll this compassion took on her own mind and body was extreme. Being new, young and not yet numb to the experience of suffering before her, her own nervous system was at risk. She began to lose both weight and hair as symptoms of what is now recognized as “vicarious trauma.”
Awakening Direct Awareness
I am not saying here that it is necessarily unethical to circumcise infants or intending in any way to impose guilt about choices families make. Certainly if my husband had answered, “Yes, please, let’s have the circumcision,” I would have complied without thought and would have known little about my child’s experience.
Circumcision is a cross-cultural practice often associated with the initiation of males and religious rites. It has been around a long time [in various forms] and may be with us for a long time to come. However, there seems to be ample and growing evidence from places like Circumcision Information and Resource Pages, the National Organization of Circumcision Information Resource Centers, and advocacy organizations such as Intact America, that circumcision as we often do it, is an unnecessary surgery which is significantly traumatizing to infants and may be associated with later sexual problems such as impotence, premature ejaculation, and erection dysfunction.
Advocates often note the ethical problem of permanently disfiguring the body of someone else without their consent. Perhaps most importantly, most circumcisions happen without loving parents present to comfort and reassure the baby, and often without the basic courtesy of anesthesia that any one of us would demand if the most delicate part of our body was to be ritually modified.
I recall Dr. Mark Brady's “Big Brain Question." A newborn getting a circumcision alone with strangers has got to be screaming, “Are you there for me?!” and “What kind of painful world is this!?,” and not getting very good answers. At least that is what Rachel and other witnesses to live circumcisions tell me (even with anesthesia).
Surely if we can put newborns through it, we should be willing to go through such an initiation ourselves, even if only as witnesses and empaths. I have a feeling that directly observing this experience might change a lot of our unexamined views on the subject.
Jeanne Denney operates the Rockland Institute for Mind-Body Education and writes regularly at the Kairos Network Blog: Stories and Essays from Death, Dying and Eldercare Professionals
For additional resources (books/websites/articles) on the prepuce (foreskin), circumcision, and intact care, see: Are You Fully Informed?
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Strictly addressing the title:
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/29kaugy The Van Howe manuscript, states that neonatal #circumcision increases incremental costs $828.42 per patient. Taking all angles into account, there was no way to make circumcision cost effective.
When my eldest was born my then husband was adamant in favor of this so I went along but I made them let me in the room and I held his little hand through the whole awful, horrible thing.
ReplyDeleteEven more upsetting to me was that afterward the nurse told me two horrific things:
1. I was the only parent who had ever chosen to be w/ their baby during this procedure
and
2. She could tell my being there had being helpful for my baby because they usually cried at least twice as hard!
It is still one of my biggest parenting regrets that I ever let anyone do that to one of my babies - and yet I am still so grateful I had the strength to stay with him, hold his hand and nurse him right afterward - and again in the car - we didn't leave that parking lot until he was calmed down and ready to leave.
@Deb the Turtle- I observed my circumcised (Minnesota circ rates at 70%) nephew exhibiting extreme horror not wanting to be secured in his car seat. He speaks Spanish. I do not. BUT THE SOUND i heard echoed the sound of the infant getting circumcised by Plastibell method. I then made the connection of his terror stemming from being strapped down in the Circumstraint Board. My heart was pounding. I feel I was correct when after the ride home, his mother translated him saying "I won't be scared any more." Has anyone had this experience? Or think I'm correct on this assumed connection?
ReplyDeleteKOTFrank - what a VERY interesting observation! I'd never thought about this connection between being strapped into a carseat and being strapped into a circumstraint. It certainly is something that begs to be looked into. Because we know that circumcision increases PTSD symptoms, along with heightened fear and pain response, and increased cortisol levels LONG after the cutting takes place, it would be interesting to note if a significant difference exists between those who are strapped/cut and later have an adverse reaction to being strapped into a carseat. Thank you for tossing in this idea.
ReplyDeleteIf you force your baby to have this surgery, the very least you can do is be there with them. If you aren't there, you are a coward and willing to sacrifice your child to peer pressure for no good reason.
ReplyDeleteIt's appalling the number of parenting blogs where mothers tell other mothers, "Get it done, but make sure you don't stay for it."
ReplyDeleteDeb, what would have happened if you'd insisted that your then husband had been the one holding his hand?
KOTFrank, the car-seat story is very interesting, and it's something that could be studied easily and non-invasively, with just a questionnaire. But to do it properly the sample would have to be truly random, not some self-selecting poll.
@DrMomma- I'm gay and sex and crystal meth use are intertwined in this community. Seeing that circumcision removes 65%-85% of the erogenous sexual receptors (85% when the frenulum is scrapped off) leaving 15% in the glans corona, it makes sense men will use drugs for better sex. Crystal meth is a drug known to more than heighten sensation but also desire. It is my observation men use this drug to compensate their sexual receptors lost to circumcision, whether consciously or unconsciously. Circumcision makes feelings of orgasm more locally at the penis compared to throughout the body. Whereas intact men feel orgasm "full body" (toe curling). Meth use makes circumcised men feel orgasms "full body" as observed in their intact counterparts. I did a check using TED information and saw some corresponding use comparing circumcision rates and meth rates. Meth rates were highest coastally but now the central states have taken over and is still increasing (where the highest circ. rates are). Male use dominates. But now interesting still is the increasing use by females which one might say discounts my observational theory, until it is realized men use meth for sex as the drug of choice so therefore females are exposed to this drug and take it up. It may be that females learn to push or even provide this drug to their sexual partners. This type of behavior has been reported in a Turkish circumcision effects study, where woman push their men to use Hashish to prolong intercourse and heighten the interest in their men. The women did not provide the drug.
ReplyDeleteTo those who have circumcised, I strongly recommend keeping a record of everything concerning the circumcision. Many males want to know what happened, what facts were given, why, who, where, complications, cost, who paid, method used, see the consent form. These things are usually lost and unrecoverable by the time he really starts to think about his circumcision and surrounding issues of facts. Having this information will provide him with the best chance to win his lawsuit (though most young men don't know they can sue and may win.One has won. Especially hard to be mature enough to sue along with the difficulty of suing at the age of maturity, usually age 18. I believe men born after 1996-7 will be seen as having standing in the courts to sue for sexual inequality given girls are fully protected from genital cutting, even from drawing a drop of blood. So in say 2016 the courts will either dismantle the protection of girls or boys will be given the same protection.
ReplyDeleteBTW-does everyone know circumcision kills parts of the brain. As brain cells no longer receive neural impulses from the missing foreskin, they atrophy and die. Then the adjacent brain cells grow into this dead space chaotically.
I am adamantly opposed to circumcising my son and any children that follow. I am a single mother and one of the big issues during my pregnancy was the 'sperm doner' wanting the procedure. He has not been in our lives during the pregnancy and up to now (my son is 10 months), however, he told he if he ever gets a hold of him, he will take him to get him circumcised! How awful! Does anyone know if this is illegal? I live in Florida. Any help or info would be appreciated. Thanks
ReplyDeleteHeather - this would be an illegal action on the part of your 'sperm donor.' It is a birth mother's legal say (whether or not her male child will be cut) in the United States.
ReplyDeleteHowever, after a certain age, it also seems our courts will uphold the child's right to bodily integrity and his own decision for his body, because just this past year a 7 year old was deemed old enough to refuse circumcision when his father wanted it done.
Hopefully soon we grant newborns this same right to their body as a 7 year old has...
I find this website very interesting, I suppose it needs a warning, this site is called "Erection photos" it is what it says, nothing but photos of penises. Its not porn, its main purpose is to help men feel their penises are normal, "big enough" etc. However I find it an fascinating look at circumcision damage, particularly the buried penises, and on page two is a great look at a "hairy shaft" almost certainly from a too tight circumcision.http://www.erectionphotos.com/frames_index.htm
ReplyDeleteAlso it seems to me that while there are a few circumcised penises that are 7" or bigger (erect) that the majority of the circ'd penises are 4-5" and the majority of the intact penises are 6-7". I was going to try to compute some stats but it was proving difficult with my dying graphics card *lol*
@KOTFrank,
ReplyDeleteIt may not be profitable to hospitals, but since states which pay doctors more than $100 per circumcision have roughly twice the circumcision rate as those that pay less than $50 I assume it is straight profit for doctors.
Sorry, I keep forgetting how annoying frames are.
ReplyDeleteIf you click on "soft-hard" at the very top in the middle it will take you to the specific photos I was talking about
Rachel & Deb: thank you for sharing your sad stories with us.
ReplyDeleteIn my lifetime social circle, 1 mother and 2 fathers have disclosed to me that they watched and held their infant boys while they were circed. Not one of these parents expressed any dismay or regret about what they saw or allowed to happen. For them, circumcision is good and the screaming was collateral damage.
I conclude that circumcision can cripple our basic sense of decency. This is very frightening.
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ReplyDeleteFYI I removed this comment because the included link was no good and was no where else.
DeleteThis was so heart wrenching to read. I felt like I was going to vomit.
ReplyDeletehttp://tinyurl.com/22r7emg "multiply the incident cost (>$750,000) by 300 as the good doctor suggests"<"$62 billion over two years."
ReplyDelete"In my practice, as a pediatric urologist, I manage the complications of neonatal circumcision. For example, in a two year period, I was referred >275 newborns and toddlers with complications of neonatal circumcision. None of these were 'revisions' because of appearance, which I do not do. 45% required corrective surgery (minor as well as major, especially for amputative injury), whereupon some could be treated locally without surgery. Complications of this unnecessary procedure are often not reported, but of 300 pediatric urologists in this country who have practices similar to mine...well, one can do the math, to understand the scope of this problem...let alone, to understand the adverse cost-benefit aspect of complications (>$750,000) in this unfortunate group of infants and young children."
I told every doctor and nurse in the hospital in no uncertain terms that I did not want a circumcision. The doctor repeatedly came back and asked me if I want a circumcision or not. IN fact I was asked this about once every 3 - 4 hours throughout the entire three days.
ReplyDeleteHowever,I did not know anything about the subject. I did not want it simply for the extremely obvious reason even to the least-intellectual human being, that generally hmm CUTTING OFF A PART OF SOMEONE'S BODY is not something that should be forced upon them. My son is a human being and should always be treated as such, including, you know, not mutilating him.
My father tried to force me to have a circumcision done, and upon explaining things like loss of sensation due to underwear rubbing, he insisted this was not true (Because, you know, he has temporarily possessed an intact man's body to know, apparently). However, my son's father insisted upon this so that Loki "would not be made fun of in gym class", and, upon further harassment from the doctor, I allowed this for what my son's father wanted.
THE DAY AFTER I GOT HOME, I found the true info on circumcision and was pained and went into depression for about 2 weeks. I am horrible. I knew this was wrong, it is obvious and instinctive. Yet I did not know the true horror of it (nor did I know this was being done without anesthesia... my baby was given TYLENOL! If they do use "anesthesia," that is what they consider "anesthesia"! However I was repeatedly told by my extremely-well-knowing (infant-wise) "parents" that Tylenol and Motrin have enough effect on infants to numb them.
The reason for this comment, however, is what happened AFTER... Loki was SCREAMING OMG SCREAMING, and I went to pick him up and hold him, the "doctor" told me "Oh, he;s just scared, leave him alone so that he falls asleep". My "parents" said the same thing... in other words they not only take the baby away front he parents to hide the atrocities that are being done to their children, but REFUSED TO ALLOW ME TO HOLD HIM EVEN AFTER HIS RETURN TO MY ROOM!
It seems to me that they REASON they allow/insist on this procedure is for the PURPOSE of torture and a lack of comfort...
After all loving people (example: hippies, anyone who thinks human beings are more important then greed, etc.) are the government's greatest enemies...
I wrote a story. It was deleted.
ReplyDeleteAt St. Alexis hospital, comforting the infant after he has been returned to your room is "not allowed".
@Mewgirl I'm sorry for your loss. You have been hurt too. Gut instincts are so important and very accurate. Circumcision though simple on the surface, is really complex. It frankly effects everything personally and socially. Circumcision self hardwires and social brainwashes. On both levels, you have experienced this yourself even though you were not cut. Here's an example illustrating the extent. I witnessed brother-in-law forcefully and logically, not angry, tell his mother that circumcision is wrong, not the parents choice to make. I was proud that he took his mother to task and in the best way. Also it was the first time I heard a man say he was against circ. While I was in the intactivist movement, self educated more than many doctors, he got married and I drew confort knowing he would not circ. I made a rookie mistake. He circ'd his son. His sister, my ex, says he probably did it because his wife is pushy overbearing. Who knows what else transpired. I know now some people will buckle and/or adopt cognitive dissonance in order to live comfortably. Another personal sad learning experience was my niece who I thought would not circ. becuase her uncle and husband are intact. Husband is Mexican a non circ society. I was shocked when she circ'd her son to save him from getting UTI. She is native american where nearly all are circ'd by the government free of charge. Many facets.
ReplyDelete@Mewgirl and regretful mothers- You can do damage control and still help you son by collecting all the information about your sons circumcision. When he is old enough he may want to know WHY. Records are usually dumped by this time and he is left to wonder. But by having the most complete records including your experience, he will have the best chance of suing if he chooses. What circumcision information is given is most important, time,place, doctors, hospital, type of instrument, complications including meatal stenosis, and yes how many times did the medical people ask to circ. that's important too. You're son will thank you for being thoughtful and caring.
ReplyDeleteIt's thought those circumcised after 1996-7 will have standing in the courts to sue. This is when females are protected from any blood letting including a drop.
There are two lawyers in this country that handle circumcision cases I believe pro bono. David Llewellyn is one.